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Tina ([personal profile] wickedcherub) wrote2015-01-07 04:55 pm

I hate having to adult

This is a large brain dump of all the things I need to work out to make some big adult decisions.



It kind of occurred to me that I've never really had to make real adult decisions before. All my major life decisions had an undertone of 'avoidance' in them - I rushed into marriage to move out of home, I had babies to avoid going to uni, and all of these decisions have been wonderful but this is my first real decision I have to make. And I just want to throw up and run away. I've been procrastinating with the idea that it's future decisions and well, the future is now.

Okay so here is the situation.

1. We live in a tiny house where I pay $260pw mortgage.
2. We have approximately $150k equity in this house.
3. This house once had termites and we want to be rid of it.
4. We live a fair way from the city centre, like I leave the house at 6:10am to start work at 8:00am.
5. I currently take home $800 per week after tax. This will continue until at least march 2017 but probably further.
6. Adam is a stay at home father, at uni, he will graduate end of 2016.
7. Liam starts school in 2016.
8. Adam has a lucrative casual job but we won't know how often he can work it until February.
9. The government also gives me $240 a week to help raise my kids because Adam doesn't work.

Okay. So we want to move. We want to move because

1. We have outgrown this house.
2. Adam will get a job in the city after he graduates so we need to move further in.
3. Termites.
4. To move to a better school zone.

We cannot move because

1. Our house needs a few things finished before it is sell ready and Adam doesn't have time this very minute to do it.
2. I haven't been to a bank yet but I doubt they will give me a loan on the basis that I'm a single income with kids and even if they did I'm not positive I could service the loan.

So I came up with a plan.

I want to move this year, so we can enrol Liam in a decent school. I don't want to switch schools on him, on top of moving. He would not handle that well.

I researched schools in Melbourne and the best primary public schools are in Glen Waverley.

Glen Waverley:
1. 30 min from city, 40 min on train.
2. 15 min from Adam's uni, as opposed to the 45min it is now.
3. 15 min from my parents, who are likely to look after my kids after school.
4. Chock full of good schools, amazing food, near a lake, beautiful tree area.
5. Houses are 1.2 million dollars.

Okay so my plan is to sell our house and rent in Glen Waverley for a year. Rent is approximately $400 per week for an old three bedroom house. That's $140 more than what we pay now.

Then when Adam starts work and we are dual income, we can buy in the next suburb over, Mulgrave, for 600k and still have Liam go to those schools.

Sticking points with the plan that I need to sort out.

1. If I sell the house and just put our equity in a term deposit for a year I'm not sure if the government will stop giving us payment.
2. Enrolment in schools starts fairly early 2015 and I don't know whether I can enrol in a school when I don't actually live there yet.
3. I don't know if that extra $140 per week is beyond my means until I redo the budget.

Adam hates the plan. He wants to live close to the beach. I can't find an affordable suburb near the beach that is not far away from the city or with good schools. He thinks the housing bubble will burst but the houses on the coast will hold their prices. He feels uncomfortable in land. Glen Waverley is approximately half an hour from the beach.

I'm uncomfortable with leaving the housing market.

I don't even know. It's doing my head in. I've got other things to consider too but I'm running out of battery.

[identity profile] sarahlouise.livejournal.com 2015-01-07 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
:( I think I'm out of touch as I bought here before things went really nuts. I was going to say Bentleigh East but I think even that has rocketed (which I don't understand, I don't like it there at all. Not that I'm saying you should live in a yucky place. But it is close to decent schools, which is probably why everyone else is there too). Is even Moorabbin crazy? When I was looking I looked at a lot of places in Moorabbin as it was quite reasonable then. Hampton east was too (not hampton itself, it's on the other side of south road). But it has no train station and I never liked the feel of it so I think there's a reason it's cheaper. You would know better than me how things are currently though :(

Yeah agree that edithvale wouldn't be a good choice for you. Not if being closer is your goal. It's lovely in other ways.

My place was 620k when I bought it. It's only two bedrooms, so too small for you, although it would be very easy to convert the dining room into a bedroom or (less easy) build up. I mean, the space is there to build up but that's a big undertaking. When I was thinking of selling it last year they quoted me 770k though so I think even this area has gone up.

It is really shitty. I think it's much harder when you're looking for a family home. I could get on the ladder because I could do crappy apartment then small house. My friends i mentioned have 3 year old twins so they're similar to you and they are finding all the places out of their budget. And they're looking in places like burwood that I didn't think were particularly posh. and both work full time.

[identity profile] wickedcherub.livejournal.com 2015-01-07 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I think that if we both work full time we would earn maybe 100-120 between us to start. I think that would get us a 600k house. Does that sound right, haha is that how much you earn lol? That mortgage isn't much these days, I think maybe I can start looking at Springvale, it's not beautiful but I grew up there and I do love it. I wonder if I can still send Liam to the Glen Waverley primary schools though if we rented there first. With high school I think we'd go the non government route anyway so I'm not fussed about high schools as yet.

[identity profile] sarahlouise.livejournal.com 2015-01-07 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
I think that would get you a 600k house, yes. Especially if you have equity already. I earn about 160k, but when I bought this house I probably earned 130k. But I would be approved for much more if I wanted to take it on (I don't. My current mortgage makes me feel ill sometimes!) I'm positive you are better at living frugally than I ma though, so I would like your chances of pulling it off better than mine.

What about oakleigh? That's maybe a bit more pretty than springvale. Worth a look. Yeah I think if you were renting in the area he'd get into the school, I don't think they care what you do afterwards as long as you're in zone to start with. Where I used to live was in the zone for elwood primary, which seems to be very popular, and we had a lot of families rent in my block for ayear then move, presumably to get the kids into the school.

[identity profile] wickedcherub.livejournal.com 2015-01-07 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yes we are good at living frugally, at least I think we don't eat fancy things, I think you can spend lots of money eating out and eating really lovely food and so you can save a lot eating more basic food or shopping at markets. And you know, packing lunch for work. So I think it's more habit than effort, really. I'm always so surprised by peoples wages, I think wages in general seem to have gone up a lot in the past five years? Like most of my friends are into 6 figures like yourself and I never would have dreamed it.

[identity profile] sarahlouise.livejournal.com 2015-01-07 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. I think that's where lots of my money goes. And on convenience. Not convenience food. But like, oh I'll just get a cab instead of waiting 20 minutes for the train. I should shop at markets. I actually enoy that anyway. I got in a really good run of packing lunch but this year have been bad.

I think they went up a lot a few years ago and then have stalled in the last year or so. I got a promotion which is the only reason mine went up, we have a wage freeze this year otherwise :( But I do agree that 100k isn't what it was, like it used to be this amazingly high salary and I don't thin kit is now.